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Haley Baumeister's avatar

The two-way street thing reality of this is interesting to me. Or rather, which came first - the chicken or the egg - type of question? For instance, the Boomer generation had the benefit of that high-trust, familial society and then turned around and embraced a libertine individualism unlike anything seen before. (Paraphrasing from Louise Perry's incredible piece "We Will All Become Boring")

So, a lot of the messaging Millenials received was to do the same, family ties and proximity be damned. And we did. We moved away for college and work and then found spouses far from where we grew up or whatever. And now a lot of that can't be turned around and a proximate village remade again. So in my case, my family and in-laws are always eager to visit from hours or states away, but we will never have them as elders in our daily life unless either my husband and I move toward one of them (and we'd have to choose, and the niche field my husband is in makes that difficult).... or they move to us (also difficult but not impossible.)

What am I saying here? haha I suppose the whole ethos of doing what's best for *you* started further back than the current grandparents simply not being involved in the present moment (sure, it sounds like some honestly are awful even when they live nearby!) But the whole life trajectory many were raised to see as normal and good is ending up a pretty sucky deal for raising a family. And I suppose we as the current parents are implicated to some degree. When the messaging is to prioritize yourself and your desires ("don't let us get in the way!", that plays out for both the younger and older generations in different ways.

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Attention: Village builders must prepare in advance for the reality that all people are difficult.

You must prepare in advance for the day when a neighbor does something that will tempt you to say, "Oh, now I know who they REALLY are."

Good people are going to do things that will make you sick with knowing that you've just been attacked; and there will be no way out except 1) war, or 2) to see the situation with their eyes, to forgive what happened/was said to the best of your ability, to retain the most basic civility (saying hello in passing, for example), and to refrain from dragging other "villagers" into the conflict. Even if you tell your story, you must not isolate the offender; and he must not try to isolate you. Six months will pass, or a year, and the baseline of "hello" will turn into something different, perhaps with a conversation and a more advanced stage of forgiveness. (It helps if he eventually needs something from you and must ask for it, or vice-versa.)

I have experienced--and heard tales of--attempts at village building out here in the mountains where I live (in France! haha. Small house / not a castle). Every story ends the same way, and I mean the same way: There is a conflict, the plenitude of a person is reduced into the fact of an offence, and the relationship is over. Over the course of a few years, most people are no longer speaking with most people, and maybe there are a few little factions that survive.

All the people of the village (or wide neighborhood) are good. Their values are the same, and their ideas are largely complementary. They clear footpaths together, help each other with building, even speak the same spiritual language--more or less.

They are friends. But maybe they start irritating each other over time, or some people take too much...eventually there's a blow-up: Serious matters like property disputes and infidelity, or petty final straws like a disagreement over the alleged synchronicity of an alienated third party's sudden phone call.

My husband says these village relationships should not be based on friendship. One of our neighbors similarly proposes that they should be based on mutual need, to the point that no one owns by himself even all the tools he uses.

I say, there's truth in these thoughts, because 1) Brotherhood is more fundamental than friendship, less exclusive, and also our reality, and 2) The physical fact of your need for help forces you to check the ego, which fantasizes relentlessly about becoming invulnerable through independence--just one of its siren calls. Let these villages be based on what you want, but at least with the understanding that you will offend and will be offended, and it will be painful indeed. To not choose war is powerfully effective but can feel most unnatural, especially in the most serious cases.

I'll be turning into an elder, soon. This is one of the things I've learned, that I'll be helping with. Even if I'm a human with continuing blindnesses, this is something I see better than the average young person.

PS I appreciated some of the other commenters touching upon this same theme.

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